Wednesday, October 11, 2017

No Moksha - No Paradise. Only Life with no I and no you



Master!

Yes my dear son,

Any good news?


Master,

Yesterday I did check with

Dogs and cows and cats.



What did you check,

Dear my son?

And what prompted you

To do so?



Master,

I don’t see them having

Any kind of irritation or allergy

Or any kind of disliking

Towards their own waste

Or urine or excreta?


  

So, dear my son? 




Master,

I wanted to know

Why was it so?

Don't they have

Good and evil?



My dear son,

What was the answer you got?



Master,

Good and bad are not

The concepts universal.

And it is not applicable

To everywhere,

On everything

Equally.




Dear my son,

Was that the answers

Those animals gave?



Not as such, Master.

But, almost.

That was what

They tried to mean.

They couldn't know

What I meant

And they seemed not bound

By what I say.



Then, dear my son,

What is good and evil?



Master,

Nothing as such

As good and evil.


Depends on the situations

One is made to be in.



I am not able to understand,

Dear my son.

Do you mean

It is only relative?



Master, yes.

Good and evil has

Nothing to do with the whole. 

It has nothing to do with

The universal wisdom.




My dear son,

Can you further explain?



Master,

Is everything good 

For the grown up

Equally applicable to

New born babies

Or little children?


Is not medicine good

For the sick one?


But can it be

In the same way good

For the healthy one?



No, dear my son, no.

What all we are allowed for,

They are not.



Master, Why is it so?



Dear my son,

Because of the situation

And its limitations.


Or because

They don't require.



If so, dear my son,

What is good and evil?



Master,

The need and no-need.


As simple as it is.



My dear son,

What is the need and no-need?


How do we decide

The need and no-need?



Master,

Need is that which

Supports life

And make life possible

And comfortable.



Dear my son,

So is medicine good

For a sick person,

Whereas it is not

For a healthy one?



Master, yes.



Otherwise, dear my son?

If any act or thing

Doesn't obstruct or disturb

Life and its comfort?



Master, then

It is not evil.

Rather, it is good.



So, dear my son,

Then the evil is?



Master,

Evil is that which

Obstructs and disturbs

Life and its comfort.


That which negates life.


Or that which

Makes life difficult.



What does it mean,

Dear my son?



Master,

Need is a need

Because life needs it

For its continuity.



No-need is a no-need,

Because, life doesn't need it

For its continuity



My dear son,

Why is a need a need

And a no need a no-need?


And why bad is bad

And good is good?



Master,

It is solely because

Of our being

Confined in the dimension

And its limiting definitions

We are born in.


It is our helplessness too.



So, dear my son,

About urine and excreta?


We really started from there!!



Yes Master,

From there we started.


I do agree and would

Clarify further.


We are unable to like

Our own urine or excreta

Because of our or our senses'

Being dictated and designed

By the definitions and limitations

Of the dimension we are born in.




Then, dear my son,

The dogs and buffaloes?



Master,

They are not

The way we are.


The dimension they are born in

Doesn't give them

Such dictations or design

Or such limitations.


Hence, no such allergy or irritation

Towards their own waste or excreta.



Master,

It is not a fault or mistake at all.


So, dear my son?



Master,

They don't feel

Bad and evil

Of what we consider

Bad or evil.


Their senses are beyond

Such confinements.



My dear son,

It is very interesting.

It sounds true as well.


Our likings and disliking are

Because of our being prisoners

Of our own dimension and its limitations.


That we are confined in

Our dimensions and its limitations.


That it has nothing to do

With the universal wisdom.




Yes, Master.



So, dear my son,

Our good and bad is

Only our good and bad

And is meant only

To support our life

And its comfort level

As per the dimension

We are helplessly in.

It will start and end

In and with us.




Yes, Master, true.




Dear my son,

If that is the case

What is good and evil?

And what is right and wrong?



Master,

Nothing as such.


There is nothing

As such as

Absolute bad or absolute good,

Or absolute right or absolute wrong,

Except relatively for us. 




Dear my son,

So, right and wrong,

Good and evil,

Are varying

From dimension

To dimension?



Yes, Master, yes.

For the absolute

Has no opposites.


Opposites are there

Only in relative world.


So is there 

Right and left,

Good and evil,

Near and far.


As purely relative.



Dear my son,

Is the absolute,

Or is in and with absolute,

No-good and no-evil?




Master,

How can good be

Named good

If no opposite is there

As bad?


Doesn’t and won’t then

The absolute mean

Being or state of affair

Without an opposite

Or without a comparable one?



Master,

How can good or God be

Identified as good or God

If no opposite

As bad and devil

Is there

To stand against and

To compare it with?



Dear my son,

So, only good means

No-Good, no-evil?

And only God means

No-God, no-devil?


Isn’t it so

In and with the absolute?



Yes, Master, yes. 



Dear my son,

Is that the reason why

God in the absolute

Becomes no God

And matter becomes

No-matter?




Master, yes.

No identity and no definition

As it needs no such.


When beyond all dimensions,

It is also beyond

All defining limitations.


Good and evil become

One and the same,

Also, for one and the same.



So, dear my son,

All good

For no-good

Or for no-bad?


And all bad

For no-bad

Or for no-good?



Master, yes.

No such question

Of terming

Good or bad

As such.



So, dear my son,

Wouldn’t that mean,

What is valid and applicable

In the world of dimensions

Is not and won’t be

Valid and applicable

In the world of no-dimension

Or of all dimensions,

Be it called or termed as

Matter or god, the absolute?




Yes, Master, yes.

How can it be otherwise?


How come the scale

Applicable and valid

In comparative world 

Is and will be

Valid and applicable

In the non-comparative world

Of non-relative absolute?



Dear my son,

What is then the absolute?

And what does it stand for?



Master,

Absolute is

That which is by itself,

Independent,

Standing by and for itself

With nothing

To depend on

And with nothing

To earn and burn.


The self-standing

Nest and source it is.



Dear my son,

And further…?



Master,

Absolute accommodates

All relatives and its varying qualities.


It stands not only for one

But all relative qualities.



Dear my son,

Can you explain it further?



Master,

Certain fruits come out

Of the soil we toil in.


Would that mean

The soil stands only

For that particular fruit

And its quality?



No, dear my son.



Master,

Soil is here only as

A relatively absolute.


Like soil conceives

And accommodates

All different qualities,

Different plants,

Fruits and flowers,

The absolute conceives

And accommodates all

Without standing for any

In particular, but all.



So, dear my son,

What about Good and bad

Of human world and his wisdom?



Master,

It is the good and evil

Of their helplessness.

Of their being confined

In the dimension

And its confining definitions,

They are helplessly born in.


It is the good and bad of

Their need in prison.



Dear my son,

Doesn’t human wisdom represent

Universal wisdom?



No, Master, no.

It represents his

Relative nature.


Hence, it proves

All accommodating nature

Of the absolute

And the universal wisdom.



So, dear my son,

Applicability of human wisdom

Will start and end

In the world of humans?



Master, yes.

Human wisdom is designed

Only to make, sustain

And support human life,

And the social setup and system

They happened to make

Because of their being confined

To the dimension and its definition

They are helplessly born in,

And because of their increased needs

And dependence due to that.



Dear my son, then

What is human wisdom?


And how is it

Making them to be more depending?



Master,

Human wisdom is

The wisdom of

More needs and, hence,

Of more dependence.


Human wisdom is also of

More pretensions, hence,

Of more preparations and works.



Human wisdom is

That which leads him to be

More learning and more working to meet

All his increased needs of dependence.



Human wisdom is such that

It made him to be

Seeking his own identity

And made him to be

Proving and establishing himself,

His identity.

Hence, all his trials and activities.



Dear my son,

That means?



Human life is almost spent

For learning and working

Just to find and make sure of

Their needs of dependence.



Human life is also almost spent

In trials or activities attempting

To seek, prove and establish

His’s own identity.



Still dear my son,

What is good and what is evil?



To say it in a different way,

As per universal wisdom

Or as per the absolute wisdom

(Where only wisdom stands

With no opposite to it

Or where no-wisdom stands

With no opposite to it),

Good and virtue are

The concepts live only

In relative dimension,

As it is also the requirement

Of relative human life

To stand, exist and sustain as such.


It also means

Anything that supports

Such life or existence

And its sustenaining system.


And evil means

Anything that negates,

Disrupts and disturbs

Such life or existence

And its supporting system.


If so, dear my son, 

Can't certain viruses or bacteria

Even be termed as evil or bad?



Master, No.

Viruses and bacteria are not

Evil and bad for themselves.



But, Master, yes too.

From the perspective of

Human world and his wisdom.


Just because,

It disturbs and disrupts

His life and its sustenance.



Dear my son,

What about the life and existence

Of viruses and bacteria?


Are they for good or evil?



Master,

Good for the viruses and bacteria,

But bad and evil for humans.


But humans are not

The central theme of

Universe and its wisdom.



So, dear my son?



Master,

Is not the absolute the one

That accommodates and sustains

All, including viruses and bacteria too?



Yes, dear my son, yes.


With no difference

In definition to life and existence.


Absolute doesn’t stand

For any, but all.



Yes, Master,

For the absolute,

Every act and thing

Is equally balancing.


Nothing causes any loss.

Be it plague or tsunami or Ebola.




Dear my son

Can you please explain it further

To make it a talk of

Common sense too?



Master,

Is it not so, that

Humans become sick and weak

When viruses and bacteria

Become strong?



Yes, dear my son, yes



If so, Master

What do you think

About viruses and bacteria

Becoming sick and weak

When humans become strong?



Dear my son,

True.


From the world of

Virus and bacteria,

Humans could be

Viewed and termed

As evil and bad?



Master,

That is possible.

And that is a fact too.



We will have to

Read and view

The books, news papers

And television channels of

Viruses and bacteria too,

To know what they think

Of humans and others.



Dear my son,

It sounds so funny as well!!



Master,

At least, 

Is it not true as well,

When humans become

Healthy and strong,

It is not only viruses and bacteria

Getting affected and weak,

But also

Everything on this planet earth

Is becoming sick and weak,

Hence, destroyed,

Disappearing and extinct.



True, dear my son,

Irrespective of the claim

Human wisdom

Makes for himself,

Who can dare say,

Dear my son,

Humans are not

A cancerous cell

Or a cancerous body,

Negative and bad,

That affects and destroys

The whole body of

Planet earth?



Master,

True and possible

To think and say so.



Dear my son,

Do you mean to say

Humans are

Bad or evil?



Master,

Not as such.


If I say so, it is

Not only about humans

But about everything.



If bad and evil,

Everything and everyone

Is bad and evil.



If good and well,

Everything and everyone

Is good and well.



No one and no act

Is wanted.


No one and no act

Is unwanted too.



Better and easier,

No to further complicate,

It is easy to put it positively

That everyone and everything is

Good and well.



Dear my son,

I need further explanation?



Master,

Only because

Certain things or activity

Is good or bad for us

Doesn’t or wouldn’t mean

It is good or bad

For all others too

In equal terms.



Master,

Our waste is

A waste for us.


In the meantime,

It is and it could be

Food or means of sustenance

For many others.



Master,

Oxygen is a waste

Sent out by the trees and plants

As unwanted.



But, Master,

Is it not the same oxygen

We want the most?



And vice-versa is the story

Of the carbon or carbon dioxide



Master,

What we consider

As fruits or flowers

Is a waste

For the trees and plants,

Like the semen or excreta for us?



But, Master,

Fruits are our best food

And flowers are our

Best decoration.



Dear my son,

If no right and wrong

Or good and evil,

What about the concept of

Rewarding the right, and

Punishing the wrong?


Won’t there be any need

Of justice delivery?



Master,

Who is right and

Who is wrong?



Are the viruses right

Or humans right?



Who to be punished

And who to be

Rewarded?


And for what?



Are the forests and rivers

That are being polluted

And destroyed by humans wrong

Or the humans wrong?



Master,

Who to be rewarded

And who to be punished?

And for what?



So, dear my son,

The concept of justice

Punishing wrong

And rewarding right

Doesn’t stand?



Master,

It is the justice system of

Our dimensional confinements.

And it sprouts from,

And will be decimated in

Our dimensional confinement.



How is it, dear my son?



Master,

Can the scale of

One dimension world

Be right and valid

In the world of

Five dimensions or ten?



Master,

How then the justice,

Good and evil,

Of one dimension or two

Will be valid and applicable 

In the world of

Five dimensions or ten.



Dear my son,

It is okay,

It is true.



Master,

What to say, then, about

The world of no dimension

Of God, the abosolute,

Where no scale or concept

Will stand at all?



Master,

How will, then,

Our concept of justice be

The justice

In the world of no dimension

Or of all dimensions together?



Master,

God is of no dimension

Or God is of all dimensions.



All are equally good,

Each needing to sustain its life,

He caused one or other way.



Everyone or everything

Return to him, the absolute,

Be he called God or no-God or matter,

To be one with him, the absolute,

Not to remain as they are or they were

In dimensional confinements.


  


Master

Hence, no need 

To say and to want

Our concept of justice

And its criterion and conditions

Be that of God, the absolute, too.



There with the absolute,

Matter become no matter

Time becomes no time

Space become no space.

And there everything

Becomes everything.



My dear son,

Did not I tell you earlier

That there is no I

And there is no you

That was born

And that will stand

As a constant?



Yes, Master,

You did teach me so.


So, do I say, Master,

If there is no I or you,

Born or to be reborn,

Who will be there, then,

To be punished or rewarded?



Dear my son,

Then, at least,

Can’t there be an escape,

An emancipation called moksha

From the relative dimension

And its confinements?



Master,

Where to be emancipated and escape

And who to be emancipated or escape?

Especially if, as you rightly said,

You in you and I in me

Were never born

And is never existing as a constant?


Then how and why, Master,

Such an escape or emancipation?



Then, dear my son,

At least births are continuing

Even after we are dead,

As if there are

Rebirths and continuations.

As if there is life after death?



Master,

It is true.


There is

And there will be

Life after death.

In the same way

It was there

Before our births.



But, Master,

It is only the life.

Not I in me

Or you in you

Continuing after death.



I in me and you in you

Were not there

Before our births,

Hence, won’t be there

After our death too.



What was continuing

Is what is continuing.


And the same will be

What will be continuing.


It is only the life.


Rebirths and repetitions

Are there for life.


Not for us.


Not for I in me

Or you in you.


But for different I and you

As and when life takes

Different relative forms

And dimensions,

Then and there

As its edge or face,

Or as its feel or thought.



Dear my son,

Relative is relative

And will ever be relative.


True. Accepted.


But, won’t there be a need

Of emancipation, moksha,

From this relative?



Master,

Relative is relative.


True and accepted.


But, relative is not relative

Because it is relative

But because it is transient,

Standing not forever.


Turning back to

Its origin, nest or source.



That which is transient,

Is decaying too.


And, Master,

This decaying is

What the escape is.


Compulsory return

To its source or nest,

The absolute.


Hence, the moksha

For and with no choice and excuse.



So, dear my son,

Does that mean

Moksha is not

Wanted or sought

But essentially got?



Master, True.

Emancipation is for all

Compulsorily for no help,

As unavoidable. 



Dear my son,

Don't I need to do

Anything special,

Like rituals and worships

Mantras and meditations

For this moksha,

The emancipation or escape.



No, Master, No.

It happens when you

Don’t do anything at all.

With your death.

With your body’s death.



Why not, dear my son?


Master,

To have purposes

And to be with

An intending I or you

Is what is burdensome life

Or what painful life is.


It is from such a life

One has to have an escape,

The moksha.



So, dear my son,

The real moksha is

Escape from I in me

And from you in you.


From the purposeful I in me

And from the purpose you in you?



Yes, Master yes.

No one or no life

Was trapped by himself

Or by itself.


Hence, no life needs

To escape and save

Intentionally by

An act and effort

From or by any.



Master,

You in you and I in me

Was not there

To be trapped and confined.


It came as a feel and thought

Only after life was

Trapped and tapped in.


 

Life gave birth to this feel of I

And the same life, thereafter,

Got trapped and mastered

By this same feel

Of I in me or you in you.



Master, so itself,

I in me and you will be lost

When and where

Life get freed of its trap

And become part

Of the whole life,

The totality.



Master,

I in me and you in you

Is only a transient feel and thought

Life makes and takes while living.


I in me and you in you is only

An instrument of life

For it to struggle and survive.



Still, my dear son,

How is this escape

To the absolute's

Openness and freedom

To have a free feel

While living?



Master,

The question is on spot.


There is a chance

For such an escape

While living too,

As optional.


The escape that will give

The real enlightenment

And weightless feel of ecstasy,

The moksha, the paradise.



What is it and how is it,

Dear my son?



Master,

It is by the mere knowledge

That I in me and you in you

Doesn’t exist and doesn’t live,

Rather only the life exists and lives.



Also it is by sheer knowledge

That I feel is only a feel

That is generated by life

Or by its living body

To fight and struggle,

Or to cut through and move

With a sharp edge.



Master,

This sharp edge is what

The feel of I in me

And you in you.


.

So, Dear my son?


Master,

This knowledge

That the self of I feel

Doesn’t exist as a constant

Gets one freed from

The fear of cycle of

Births and rebirths

To his self of I feel,

To the same I in me

Or you in you.



Knowing this,

We also know

We are only

In and with the absolute,

That we are not

And we can never be

Away or distanced

From the absolute.




Master,

This is

Or this feel is what

Real Moksha is,

The real escape.



Dear my son,

That means

The knowledge that,

We are from the absolute,

We are with the absolute

And we will be

To and with the absolute

Is what Moksha is?



Yes, Master.

No need of any act or effort

For this moksha,

The emancipation or escape,

But only to know and realize.



Dear my son,

Why then,

There was a concept of

Emancipation?


Why did our old sages and prophets

Talk about Moksha and paradise?



Master, true.

Our old sages talked

About the moksha.



But, Master,

The moksha,

An emancipation or escape,

Our old sages and prophets

Talked about was

The moksha while living.


Not of moksha after death

Which essentially happens

For none of our efforts and actions?



Master,

They talked about the moksha

To teach and make us aware

That we are from the absolute,

We are with the absolute

And we will always be

With the same absolute,

Except for our ceated feel

Or separating self.


They wanted us to learn that

We are not by our I or we feel,

But by the life we live.


That we are life and

Life is what we are.



Dear my son,

Having or not having

Moksha or escape

While living means?



Master,

It is only in the difference

Of knowing or not knowing.


Irrespective of knowing or not knowing,

Everyone seeks and reaches

The Moksha.

The inevitable moksha.



Dear my son,

How is it?



Master,

Not knowing, naturally,

One happens to be in

The darkness of ignorance.


Hence, afraid and believing in

Many unwanted confining things.



Master,

Our confinement and limitations are

Because of our ignorance

And its denial of knowledge to us.


Hence, needing a moksha.

An escape.



So, dear my son,

The moksha or emancipation

Is in one’s knowledge

That he is in and with the absolute

That he can never be

Separated or distanced

From the absolute?



Master, yes.

Emancipation is

By and with the knowledge.


Not by any act or effort.


The process of moksha is same for all

Irrespective of one knows

Or doesn't know of it.



Only way of moksha is

To know I in me

Or you in you doesn’t stand,

And to know only life stands

As both relative and the absolute.


Life is what I in me is

And you in you are.



Our moksha is our knowledge

Of being one with the totality,

The absolute,

God, matter, no-God.



Dear my son,

No Karma and no karmic effect as well?



Master,

All karmas are karmas of life.

All actions are actions of life.

Life makes and life takes.

All actions, as well as all effects.


  


Master,

Even otherwise,

How can there be

My karma or your karma,

My actions or your action

If I in me and you in you

Doesn’t exist, except as

The instruments of life.


What all action are there,

It is of life only.


What all effects are there

That too is of life only.


Just for its pursuance and continuation.



Dear my son,

Does any one

Really need

A moksha,

The emancipation?




Master,

Not necessarily.


Moksha is not sought

But got.


Moksha is also not

By any action or effort.


Rather, it happens by itself.

It is never sought, but ever got.



But, Master,

Yes too, necessarily,

If one wants to have

Moksha while living.



One needs to have

Such a Moksha

To be calm and quiet,

To be really restfully

In harmony and united with.



If so, dear my son,

From what is

Such a moksha,

The emancipation,

While living?



Master,

From one’s own self.

From separating self.

From confining self.

From burdening self.

From really not existing,

But feeling to be existing,

One's own self.

From the feel and thought

I in me and you in you

Separating from the whole

As if separately existing

From the whole and totality.



Dear my son,

Why such a moksha

While living is a must?




Master,

Life is in inevitable trap

Of relative forms

And confining dimension.


True and accepted.


But, Master,

Such a trap or saperation is

Without losing oneness with

The totality, the absolute,

In real terms.



And such a trap will be

Lost, relieved or released

Of its relative confinement

Of dimensions and its forms

By its own,

By each death

Or by each birth

One or other way.



But, Master,

The biggest trap and burden

While living, at least

As a human being, is

The feel and thought of

I in me and you in you.


Especially when it gives the feel

That he is separate from the whole.


Alone and needing to fight alone.



No one is able to bear

With this greatest burden of I feel

And face it in calm and control.



That is why, Master,

Most of the people

Are unable or afraid

To be alone and resting.


One seek rest and loneliness.

But one really cannot be in

Respt and loneliness.



That is why, Master,

Whenever one gets chance

To be alone or idle, to rest,

They say they feel bored or afraid.



That is why, Master,

They want one or other kind

Of engagements or acquaintances

To forget and escape from

The feel and thought of

I in each and every one,

From himself.



Why is this,

Dear my son?



Master,

Because, they want

Moksha in disguise

From their disturbing self.

From their really not existing self.

From temporary, but disturbing self

That separates and confines them.

The self that makes them

To be craving and hard working.

The self that wants them

To seek, prove and establish.



Dear my son,

This what you said is

Really great.

Can you further explain it?



Master,

One can bear with

Anything and anyone outside

But not himself.


One can identify himself with

Anything external,

Be it fame or power or possession,

But not with himself.


Hence, they need power,

Fame and possession

To identify themselves with

And to have moksha

His own I feel

By trying to establish it.



Hence, they want

Only to get out

And look out,

Than get inward

And look inward.



That is why, Master,

When one gets

To face himself

He rather tries to evade


And escape from himself

Putting the blame on boredom

Or as if he is afraid

And wants to pass himself

In the beautiful name of

Passing the time

With other engagements.


The time pass is basically

To evade and escape

From one’s own self.

From one’s own disturbing self.



Which means,

Dear my son?



Everyone is seeking and taking

The path of moksha

In one or other way,

Even while living:



Either by knowing that

I in me or you in you

I in him or I in anyone

Doesn’t exist,



Or without knowing it,

But by evading or escaping

From the burdensome self

Through one or other

Activities or engagements.

Be it social or political.



So, dear my son,

Life is almost becoming

An escaping attempt?.



Yes Master, yes.

For majority of the people

Life is a burden.


Because they can’t

Afford themselves.


Hence, they want

To avoid and escape

From the very disturbing

And burdensome self.

The self of I feel.



Master,

Majority of the people

Do not know

I in me and you in you

Does not really exist.



Rather, most of them

Mostly believe and think,

I in me and you in you

Is what really existing,

Not the life.


Though very tough

And very difficult

It is for them to carry

The self of I feeling.



Hence, they escape from

This burdensome and disturbing

Self of I feeling.



So, dear my son,

Life is for them?



Either to establish

This self of I feeling

By and through the external

Possession or fame or power

Or by and through

All their activities,

Be it social or political

Or charitable or educational etc,



Or to evade or escape

From the self of I feel

Either by resorting to

Religion or drugs

Or addicting activities

So as to forget the self

Or to escape from the self

Of I feel.



Both ways,

A kind moksha is

Sought and realized,

Though not long standing.


Am I not right, dear my son?


  


Yes, Master.

Life is almost spent

In and by escaping

Or for escaping

From one’s own self.

The moksha.



Then, dear my son,

Of human wisdom

Once again?



Master,

Human wisdom is

The wisdom of his confinement.

The wisdom of prison.


The wisdom that

Separates and distances.


The wisdom that makes him to be

Wanting and needing more 

And, hence, having to

Learn and work more

Throughout.



It gives more of veils.

Hence, ignorance

And no right sight

And no right knowledge.



Hence it is, Master,

Not applicable

In and to the world of the absolute

That is totally open and free

Of all definitions and confinements.



The good and evil

Even in human world

Is nothing but

Different kinds of

Sharpness and edge

Life seeks and takes for itself

To struggle and survive.



After all, Master,

By and with

All the evil and good only

Life survives.

The absolute stands.



Hence, for absolute,

There is no evil and good,

But only the truth, the absolute.

Only the life, the great flow.

Only the spontaneity, the great dance.


  

All the notes

In a musical composition,

Be it low or middle or high,

Are equally good and for good

For that musical composition.

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