Master!
Yes my dear son,
Any good news?
Master,
Yesterday I did check with
Dogs and cows and cats.
What did you check,
Dear my son?
And what prompted you
To do so?
Master,
I don’t see them having
Any kind of irritation or allergy
Or any kind of disliking
Towards their own waste
Or urine or excreta?
So, dear my son?
Master,
I wanted to know
Why was it so?
Don't they have
Good and evil?
My dear son,
What was the answer you got?
Master,
Good and bad are not
The concepts universal.
And it is not applicable
To everywhere,
On everything
Equally.
Dear my son,
Was that the answers
Those animals gave?
Not as such, Master.
But, almost.
That was what
They tried to mean.
They couldn't know
What I meant
And they seemed not bound
By what I say.
Then, dear my son,
What is good and evil?
Master,
Nothing as such
As good and evil.
Depends on the situations
One is made to be in.
I am not able to understand,
Dear my son.
Do you mean
It is only relative?
Master, yes.
Good and evil has
Nothing to do with the whole.
It has nothing to do with
The universal wisdom.
My dear son,
Can you further explain?
Master,
Is everything good
For the grown up
Equally applicable to
New born babies
Or little children?
Is not medicine good
For the sick one?
But can it be
In the same way good
For the healthy one?
No, dear my son, no.
What all we are allowed for,
They are not.
Master, Why is it so?
Dear my son,
Because of the situation
And its limitations.
Or because
They don't require.
If so, dear my son,
What is good and evil?
Master,
The need and no-need.
As simple as it is.
My dear son,
What is the need and no-need?
How do we decide
The need and no-need?
Master,
Need is that which
Supports life
And make life possible
And comfortable.
Dear my son,
So is medicine good
For a sick person,
Whereas it is not
For a healthy one?
Master, yes.
Otherwise, dear my son?
If any act or thing
Doesn't obstruct or disturb
Life and its comfort?
Master, then
It is not evil.
Rather, it is good.
So, dear my son,
Then the evil is?
Master,
Evil is that which
Obstructs and disturbs
Life and its comfort.
That which negates life.
Or that which
Makes life difficult.
What does it mean,
Dear my son?
Master,
Need is a need
Because life needs it
For its continuity.
No-need is a no-need,
Because, life doesn't need it
For its continuity
My dear son,
Why is a need a need
And a no need a no-need?
And why bad is bad
And good is good?
Master,
It is solely because
Of our being
Confined in the dimension
And its limiting definitions
We are born in.
It is our helplessness too.
So, dear my son,
About urine and excreta?
We really started from there!!
Yes Master,
From there we started.
I do agree and would
Clarify further.
We are unable to like
Our own urine or excreta
Because of our or our senses'
Being dictated and designed
By the definitions and limitations
Of the dimension we are born in.
Then, dear my son,
The dogs and buffaloes?
Master,
They are not
The way we are.
The dimension they are born in
Doesn't give them
Such dictations or design
Or such limitations.
Hence, no such allergy or irritation
Towards their own waste or excreta.
Master,
It is not a fault or mistake at all.
So, dear my son?
Master,
They don't feel
Bad and evil
Of what we consider
Bad or evil.
Their senses are beyond
Such confinements.
My dear son,
It is very interesting.
It sounds true as well.
Our likings and disliking are
Because of our being prisoners
Of our own dimension and its limitations.
That we are confined
in
Our dimensions and its limitations.
That it has nothing to do
With the universal wisdom.
Yes, Master.
So, dear my son,
Our good and bad is
Only our good and bad
And is meant only
To support our life
And its comfort level
As per the dimension
We are helplessly in.
It will start and end
In and with us.
Yes, Master, true.
Dear my son,
If that is the case
What is good and evil?
And what is right and wrong?
Master,
Nothing as such.
There is nothing
As such as
Absolute bad or absolute good,
Or absolute right or absolute wrong,
Except relatively for us.
Dear my son,
So, right and wrong,
Good and evil,
Are varying
From dimension
To dimension?
Yes, Master, yes.
For the absolute
Has no opposites.
Opposites are there
Only in relative world.
So is there
Right and left,
Good and evil,
Near and far.
As purely relative.
Dear my son,
Is the absolute,
Or is in and with absolute,
No-good and no-evil?
Master,
How can good be
Named good
If no opposite is there
As bad?
Doesn’t and won’t then
The absolute mean
Being or state of affair
Without an opposite
Or without a comparable one?
Master,
How can good or God be
Identified as good or God
If no opposite
As bad and devil
Is there
To stand against and
To compare it with?
Dear my son,
So, only good means
No-Good, no-evil?
And only God means
No-God, no-devil?
Isn’t it so
In and with the absolute?
Yes, Master, yes.
Dear my son,
Is that the reason why
God in the absolute
Becomes no God
And matter becomes
No-matter?
Master, yes.
No identity and no definition
As it needs no such.
When beyond all dimensions,
It is also beyond
All defining limitations.
Good and evil become
One and the same,
Also, for one and the same.
So, dear my son,
All good
For no-good
Or for no-bad?
And all bad
For no-bad
Or for no-good?
Master, yes.
No such question
Of terming
Good or bad
As such.
So, dear my son,
Wouldn’t that mean,
What is valid and applicable
In the world of dimensions
Is not and won’t be
Valid and applicable
In the world of no-dimension
Or of all dimensions,
Be it called or termed as
Matter or god, the absolute?
Yes, Master, yes.
How can it be otherwise?
How come the scale
Applicable and valid
In comparative world
Is and will be
Valid and applicable
In the non-comparative world
Of non-relative absolute?
Dear my son,
What is then the absolute?
And what does it stand for?
Master,
Absolute is
That which is by itself,
Independent,
Standing by and for itself
With nothing
To depend on
And with nothing
To earn and burn.
The self-standing
Nest and source it is.
Dear my son,
And further…?
Master,
Absolute accommodates
All relatives and its varying qualities.
It stands not only for one
But all relative qualities.
Dear my son,
Can you explain it further?
Master,
Certain fruits come out
Of the soil we toil in.
Would that mean
The soil stands only
For that particular fruit
And its quality?
No, dear my son.
Master,
Soil is here only as
A relatively absolute.
Like soil conceives
And accommodates
All different qualities,
Different plants,
Fruits and flowers,
The absolute conceives
And accommodates all
Without standing for any
In particular, but all.
So, dear my son,
What about Good and bad
Of human world and his wisdom?
Master,
It is the good and evil
Of their helplessness.
Of their being confined
In the dimension
And its confining definitions,
They are helplessly
born in.
It is the good and bad of
Their need in prison.
Dear my son,
Doesn’t human wisdom represent
Universal wisdom?
No, Master, no.
It represents his
Relative nature.
Hence, it proves
All accommodating nature
Of the absolute
And the universal wisdom.
So, dear my son,
Applicability of human wisdom
Will start and end
In the world of humans?
Master, yes.
Human wisdom is designed
Only to make, sustain
And support human life,
And the social setup and system
They happened to make
Because of their being confined
To the dimension and its definition
They are helplessly born in,
And because of their increased needs
And dependence due to that.
Dear my son, then
What is human wisdom?
And how is it
Making them to be more depending?
Master,
Human wisdom is
The wisdom of
More needs and, hence,
Of more dependence.
Human wisdom is also of
More pretensions, hence,
Of more preparations and works.
Human wisdom is
That which leads him to be
More learning and more working to meet
All his increased needs of dependence.
Human wisdom is such that
It made him to be
Seeking his own identity
And made him to be
Proving and establishing himself,
His identity.
Hence, all his trials and activities.
Dear my son,
That means?
Human life is almost spent
For learning and working
Just to find and make sure of
Their needs of dependence.
Human life is also almost spent
In trials or activities attempting
To seek, prove and establish
His’s own identity.
Still dear my son,
What is good and what is evil?
To say it in a different way,
As per universal wisdom
Or as per the absolute wisdom
(Where only wisdom stands
With no opposite to it
Or where no-wisdom stands
With no opposite to it),
Good and virtue are
The concepts live only
In relative dimension,
As it is also the requirement
Of relative human life
To stand, exist and sustain as such.
It also means
Anything that supports
Such life or existence
And its sustenaining system.
And evil means
Anything that negates,
Disrupts and disturbs
Such life or existence
And its supporting system.
If so, dear my son,
Can't certain viruses or bacteria
Even be termed as evil or bad?
Master, No.
Viruses and bacteria are not
Evil and bad for themselves.
But, Master, yes too.
From the perspective of
Human world and his wisdom.
Just because,
It disturbs and disrupts
His life and its sustenance.
Dear my son,
What about the life and existence
Of viruses and bacteria?
Are they for good or evil?
Master,
Good for the viruses and bacteria,
But bad and evil for humans.
But humans are not
The central theme of
Universe and its wisdom.
So, dear my son?
Master,
Is not the absolute the one
That accommodates and sustains
All, including viruses and bacteria too?
Yes, dear my son, yes.
With no difference
In definition to life and existence.
Absolute doesn’t stand
For any, but all.
Yes, Master,
For the absolute,
Every act and thing
Is equally balancing.
Nothing causes any loss.
Be it plague or tsunami or Ebola.
Dear my son
Can you please explain it further
To make it a talk of
Common sense too?
Master,
Is it not so, that
Humans become sick and weak
When viruses and bacteria
Become strong?
Yes, dear my son, yes
If so, Master
What do you think
About viruses and bacteria
Becoming sick and weak
When humans become strong?
Dear my son,
True.
From the world of
Virus and bacteria,
Humans could be
Viewed and termed
As evil and bad?
Master,
That is possible.
And that is a fact too.
We will have to
Read and view
The books, news papers
And television channels of
Viruses and bacteria too,
To know what they think
Of humans and others.
Dear my son,
It sounds so funny as well!!
Master,
At least,
Is it not true as well,
When humans become
Healthy and strong,
It is not only viruses and bacteria
Getting affected and weak,
But also
Everything on this planet earth
Is becoming sick and weak,
Hence, destroyed,
Disappearing and extinct.
True, dear my son,
Irrespective of the claim
Human wisdom
Makes for himself,
Who can dare say,
Dear my son,
Humans are not
A cancerous cell
Or a cancerous body,
Negative and bad,
That affects and destroys
The whole body of
Planet earth?
Master,
True and possible
To think and say so.
Dear my son,
Do you mean to say
Humans are
Bad or evil?
Master,
Not as such.
If I say so, it is
Not only about humans
But about everything.
If bad and evil,
Everything and everyone
Is bad and evil.
If good and well,
Everything and everyone
Is good and well.
No one and no act
Is wanted.
No one and no act
Is unwanted too.
Better and easier,
No to further complicate,
It is easy to put it positively
That everyone and everything is
Good and well.
Dear my son,
I need further explanation?
Master,
Only because
Certain things or activity
Is good or bad for us
Doesn’t or wouldn’t mean
It is good or bad
For all others too
In equal terms.
Master,
Our waste is
A waste for us.
In the meantime,
It is and it could be
Food or means of sustenance
For many others.
Master,
Oxygen is a waste
Sent out by the trees and plants
As unwanted.
But, Master,
Is it not the same oxygen
We want the most?
And vice-versa is the story
Of the carbon or carbon dioxide
Master,
What we consider
As fruits or flowers
Is a waste
For the trees and plants,
Like the semen or excreta for us?
But, Master,
Fruits are our best food
And flowers are our
Best decoration.
Dear my son,
If no right and wrong
Or good and evil,
What about the concept of
Rewarding the right, and
Punishing the wrong?
Won’t there be any need
Of justice delivery?
Master,
Who is right and
Who is wrong?
Are the viruses right
Or humans right?
Who to be punished
And who to be
Rewarded?
And for what?
Are the forests and rivers
That are being polluted
And destroyed by humans wrong
Or the humans wrong?
Master,
Who to be rewarded
And who to be punished?
And for what?
So, dear my son,
The concept of justice
Punishing wrong
And rewarding right
Doesn’t stand?
Master,
It is the justice system of
Our dimensional confinements.
And it sprouts from,
And will be decimated in
Our dimensional confinement.
How is it, dear my son?
Master,
Can the scale of
One dimension world
Be right and valid
In the world of
Five dimensions or ten?
Master,
How then the justice,
Good and evil,
Of one dimension or two
Will be valid and applicable
In the world of
Five dimensions or ten.
Dear my son,
It is okay,
It is true.
Master,
What to say, then, about
The world of no dimension
Of God, the abosolute,
Where no scale or concept
Will stand at all?
Master,
How will, then,
Our concept of justice be
The justice
In the world of no dimension
Or of all dimensions together?
Master,
God is of no dimension
Or God is of all dimensions.
All are equally good,
Each needing to sustain its life,
He caused one or other way.
Everyone or everything
Return to him, the absolute,
Be he called God or no-God or matter,
To be one with him, the absolute,
Not to remain as they are or they were
In dimensional confinements.
Master
Hence, no need
To say and to want
Our concept of justice
And its criterion and conditions
Be that of God, the absolute, too.
There with the absolute,
Matter become no matter
Time becomes no time
Space become no space.
And there everything
Becomes everything.
My dear son,
Did not I tell you earlier
That there is no I
And there is no you
That was born
And that will stand
As a constant?
Yes, Master,
You did teach me so.
So, do I say, Master,
If there is no I or you,
Born or to be reborn,
Who will be there, then,
To be punished or rewarded?
Dear my son,
Then, at least,
Can’t there be an escape,
An emancipation called moksha
From the relative dimension
And its confinements?
Master,
Where to be emancipated and escape
And who to be emancipated or escape?
Especially if, as you rightly said,
You in you and I in me
Were never born
And is never existing as a constant?
Then how and why, Master,
Such an escape or emancipation?
Then, dear my son,
At least births are continuing
Even after we are dead,
As if there are
Rebirths and continuations.
As if there is life after death?
Master,
It is true.
There is
And there will be
Life after death.
In the same way
It was there
Before our births.
But, Master,
It is only the life.
Not I in me
Or you in you
Continuing after death.
I in me and you in you
Were not there
Before our births,
Hence, won’t be there
After our death too.
What was continuing
Is what is continuing.
And the same will be
What will be continuing.
It is only the life.
Rebirths and repetitions
Are there for life.
Not for us.
Not for I in me
Or you in you.
But for different I and you
As and when life takes
Different relative forms
And dimensions,
Then and there
As its edge or face,
Or as its feel or thought.
Dear my son,
Relative is relative
And will ever be relative.
True. Accepted.
But, won’t there be a need
Of emancipation, moksha,
From this relative?
Master,
Relative is relative.
True and accepted.
But, relative is not relative
Because it is relative
But because it is transient,
Standing not forever.
Turning back to
Its origin, nest or source.
That which is transient,
Is decaying too.
And, Master,
This decaying is
What the escape is.
Compulsory return
To its source or nest,
The absolute.
Hence, the moksha
For and with no choice and excuse.
So, dear my son,
Does that mean
Moksha is not
Wanted or sought
But essentially got?
Master, True.
Emancipation is for all
Compulsorily for no help,
As unavoidable.
Dear my son,
Don't I need to do
Anything special,
Like rituals and worships
Mantras and meditations
For this moksha,
The emancipation or escape.
No, Master, No.
It happens when you
Don’t do anything at all.
With your death.
With your body’s death.
Why not, dear my son?
Master,
To have purposes
And to be with
An intending I or you
Is what is burdensome life
Or what painful life is.
It is from such a life
One has to have an escape,
The moksha.
So, dear my son,
The real moksha is
Escape from I in me
And from you in you.
From the purposeful I in me
And from the purpose you in you?
Yes, Master yes.
No one or no life
Was trapped by himself
Or by itself.
Hence, no life needs
To escape and save
Intentionally by
An act and effort
From or by any.
Master,
You in you and I in me
Was not there
To be trapped and confined.
It came as a feel and thought
Only after life was
Trapped and tapped in.
Life gave birth to this feel of I
And the same life, thereafter,
Got trapped and mastered
By this same feel
Of I in me or you in you.
Master, so itself,
I in me and you will be lost
When and where
Life get freed of its trap
And become part
Of the whole life,
The totality.
Master,
I in me and you in you
Is only a transient feel and thought
Life makes and takes while living.
I in me and you in you is only
An instrument of life
For it to struggle and survive.
Still, my dear son,
How is this escape
To the absolute's
Openness and freedom
To have a free feel
While living?
Master,
The question is on spot.
There is a chance
For such an escape
While living too,
As optional.
The escape that will give
The real enlightenment
And weightless feel of ecstasy,
The moksha, the paradise.
What is it and how is it,
Dear my son?
Master,
It is by the mere knowledge
That I in me and you in you
Doesn’t exist and doesn’t live,
Rather only the life exists and lives.
Also it is by sheer knowledge
That I feel is only a feel
That is generated by life
Or by its living body
To fight and struggle,
Or to cut through and move
With a sharp edge.
Master,
This sharp edge is what
The feel of I in me
And you in you.
.
So, Dear my son?
Master,
This knowledge
That the self of I feel
Doesn’t exist as a constant
Gets one freed from
The fear of cycle of
Births and rebirths
To his self of I feel,
To the same I in me
Or you in you.
Knowing this,
We also know
We are only
In and with the absolute,
That we are not
And we can never be
Away or distanced
From the absolute.
Master,
This is
Or this feel is what
Real Moksha is,
The real escape.
Dear my son,
That means
The knowledge that,
We are from the absolute,
We are with the absolute
And we will be
To and with the absolute
Is what Moksha is?
Yes, Master.
No need of any act or effort
For this moksha,
The emancipation or escape,
But only to know and realize.
Dear my son,
Why then,
There was a concept of
Emancipation?
Why did our old sages and prophets
Talk about Moksha and paradise?
Master, true.
Our old sages talked
About the moksha.
But, Master,
The moksha,
An emancipation or escape,
Our old sages and prophets
Talked about was
The moksha while living.
Not of moksha after death
Which essentially happens
For none of our efforts and actions?
Master,
They talked about the moksha
To teach and make us aware
That we are from the absolute,
We are with the absolute
And we will always be
With the same absolute,
Except for our ceated feel
Or separating self.
They wanted us to learn that
We are not by our I or we feel,
But by the life we live.
That we are life and
Life is what we are.
Dear my son,
Having or not having
Moksha or escape
While living means?
Master,
It is only in the difference
Of knowing or not knowing.
Irrespective of knowing or not knowing,
Everyone seeks and reaches
The Moksha.
The inevitable moksha.
Dear my son,
How is it?
Master,
Not knowing, naturally,
One happens to be in
The darkness of ignorance.
Hence, afraid and believing in
Many unwanted confining things.
Master,
Our confinement and limitations are
Because of our ignorance
And its denial of knowledge to us.
Hence, needing a moksha.
An escape.
So, dear my son,
The moksha or emancipation
Is in one’s knowledge
That he is in and with the absolute
That he can never be
Separated or distanced
From the absolute?
Master, yes.
Emancipation is
By and with the knowledge.
Not by any act or effort.
The process of moksha is same for all
Irrespective of one knows
Or doesn't know of it.
Only way of moksha is
To know I in me
Or you in you doesn’t stand,
And to know only life stands
As both relative and the absolute.
Life is what I in me is
And you in you are.
Our moksha is our knowledge
Of being one with the totality,
The absolute,
God, matter, no-God.
Dear my son,
No Karma and no karmic effect as well?
Master,
All karmas are karmas of life.
All actions are actions of life.
Life makes and life takes.
All actions, as well as all effects.
Master,
Even otherwise,
How can there be
My karma or your karma,
My actions or your action
If I in me and you in you
Doesn’t exist, except as
The instruments of life.
What all action are there,
It is of life only.
What all effects are there
That too is of life only.
Just for its pursuance and continuation.
Dear my son,
Does any one
Really need
A moksha,
The emancipation?
Master,
Not necessarily.
Moksha is not sought
But got.
Moksha is also not
By any action or effort.
Rather, it happens by itself.
It is never sought, but ever got.
But, Master,
Yes too, necessarily,
If one wants to have
Moksha while living.
One needs to have
Such a Moksha
To be calm and quiet,
To be really restfully
In harmony and united with.
If so, dear my son,
From what is
Such a moksha,
The emancipation,
While living?
Master,
From one’s own self.
From separating self.
From confining self.
From burdening self.
From really not existing,
But feeling to be existing,
One's own self.
From the feel and thought
I in me and you in you
Separating from the whole
As if separately existing
From the whole and totality.
Dear my son,
Why such a moksha
While living is a must?
Master,
Life is in inevitable trap
Of relative forms
And confining dimension.
True and accepted.
But, Master,
Such a trap or saperation is
Without losing oneness with
The totality, the absolute,
In real terms.
And such a trap will be
Lost, relieved or released
Of its relative confinement
Of dimensions and its forms
By its own,
By each death
Or by each birth
One or other way.
But, Master,
The biggest trap and burden
While living, at least
As a human being, is
The feel and thought of
I in me and you in you.
Especially when it gives the feel
That he is separate from the whole.
Alone and needing to fight alone.
No one is able to bear
With this greatest burden of I feel
And face it in calm and control.
That is why, Master,
Most of the people
Are unable or afraid
To be alone and resting.
One seek rest and loneliness.
But one really cannot be in
Respt and loneliness.
That is why, Master,
Whenever one gets chance
To be alone or idle, to rest,
They say they feel bored or afraid.
That is why, Master,
They want one or other kind
Of engagements or acquaintances
To forget and escape from
The feel and thought of
I in each and every one,
From himself.
Why is this,
Dear my son?
Master,
Because, they want
Moksha in disguise
From their disturbing self.
From their really not existing self.
From temporary, but disturbing self
That separates and confines them.
The self that makes them
To be craving and hard working.
The self that wants them
To seek, prove and establish.
Dear my son,
This what you said is
Really great.
Can you further explain it?
Master,
One can bear with
Anything and anyone outside
But not himself.
One can identify himself with
Anything external,
Be it fame or power or possession,
But not with himself.
Hence, they need power,
Fame and possession
To identify themselves with
And to have moksha
His own I feel
By trying to establish it.
Hence, they want
Only to get out
And look out,
Than get inward
And look inward.
That is why, Master,
When one gets
To face himself
He rather tries to evade
And escape from himself
Putting the blame on boredom
Or as if he is afraid
And wants to pass himself
In the beautiful name of
Passing the time
With other engagements.
The time pass is basically
To evade and escape
From one’s own self.
From one’s own disturbing self.
Which means,
Dear my son?
Everyone is seeking and taking
The path of moksha
In one or other way,
Even while living:
Either by knowing that
I in me or you in you
I in him or I in anyone
Doesn’t exist,
Or without knowing it,
But by evading or escaping
From the burdensome self
Through one or other
Activities or engagements.
Be it social or political.
So, dear my son,
Life is almost becoming
An escaping attempt?.
Yes Master, yes.
For majority of the people
Life is a burden.
Because they can’t
Afford themselves.
Hence, they want
To avoid and escape
From the very disturbing
And burdensome self.
The self of I feel.
Master,
Majority of the people
Do not know
I in me and you in you
Does not really exist.
Rather, most of them
Mostly believe and think,
I in me and you in you
Is what really existing,
Not the life.
Though very tough
And very difficult
It is for them to carry
The self of I feeling.
Hence, they escape from
This burdensome and disturbing
Self of I feeling.
So, dear my son,
Life is for them?
Either to establish
This self of I feeling
By and through the external
Possession or fame or power
Or by and through
All their activities,
Be it social or political
Or charitable or educational etc,
Or to evade or escape
From the self of I feel
Either by resorting to
Religion or drugs
Or addicting activities
So as to forget the self
Or to escape from the self
Of I feel.
Both ways,
A kind moksha is
Sought and realized,
Though not long standing.
Am I not right, dear my son?
Yes, Master.
Life is almost spent
In and by escaping
Or for escaping
From one’s own self.
The moksha.
Then, dear my son,
Of human wisdom
Once again?
Master,
Human wisdom is
The wisdom of his confinement.
The wisdom of prison.
The wisdom that
Separates and distances.
The wisdom that makes him to be
Wanting and needing more
And, hence, having to
Learn and work more
Throughout.
It gives more of veils.
Hence, ignorance
And no right sight
And no right knowledge.
Hence it is, Master,
Not applicable
In and to the world of the absolute
That is totally open and free
Of all definitions and confinements.
The good and evil
Even in human world
Is nothing but
Different kinds of
Sharpness and edge
Life seeks and takes for itself
To struggle and survive.
After all, Master,
By and with
All the evil and good only
Life survives.
The absolute stands.
Hence, for absolute,
There is no evil and good,
But only the truth, the absolute.
Only the life, the great flow.
Only the spontaneity, the great dance.
All the notes
In a musical composition,
Be it low or middle or high,
Are equally good and for good
For that musical
composition.
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